Don't try to tell Packers offensive line coach James Campen his starting five basically was determined before training camp started.
Fearing a sense of complacency, Campen doesn't want any players thinking their job is locked up.
Still, it would be a significant surprise not to see the following players line up for the Packers' Sept. 9 regular season opener against San Francisco: Left tackle Marshall Newhouse, left guard T.J. Lang, new center Jeff Saturday, right guard Josh Sitton and right tackle Bryan Bulaga.
That's a big change from the recent past, where the Packers often have used camp and the preseason to determine at least one offensive line starter. And while the line might be more settled this year, the Packers still have questions to answer in the preseason.