MADISON, Wis. -- Despite the ongoing protests at the state Capitol, Gov. Scott Walker appeared on national television Sunday morning to maintain that he will not budge on his stance to keep most collective bargaining rights out of his budget repair bill.

"We can have passion and be civil about it," said Walker on NBC's "Meet the Press." "But, in the end, I believe that those, at least some of those state senators will come back. If we fail to pass this bill by Tuesday, we lose $165 million worth of savings. If we continue down that path, we start seeing layoffs."

Walker said he's continuing to push his measure, which would require public employees to pay more for their benefits and pensions and strip their unions of most of their collective bargaining powers.

The measure currently faces an uncertain future in the state Legislature. Last week, the Republican-controlled Assembly passed the measure. However, the state Senate can't take action on the legislation after Democrats thwarted a vote. The "Wisconsin 14," the Democratic state senators who left the state to prevent a vote on Walker's bill in the state Senate, continue to say that they will only come back if those collective bargaining rights are removed from the bill.

Meanwhile, Todd Berry, president of the Wisconsin Taxpayers Alliance, appeared on WISC-TV's "For the Record" on Sunday morning. Later in the day, he spoke further about Walker's budget, which he plans to unveil Tuesday. The budget is expected to contain many deep cuts, and Berry said those cuts will mean serious changes for local government.

"It's budget math," said Berry. "And the thing that people don't understand is that the biggest part of the state budget, the general fund budget, is aid to schools and local government. Over half. And so if you've got a big budget problem, you really can't solve it with more than half the tools off the table. So yes, there are going to have to be cuts to schools and aides to local government, just as there were in the previous administration in the last budget."

Berry also said that Medicaid is the second largest piece of the budget puzzle, and by far, he said, the fastest growing, with costs more than tripling in the last decade. He said the state should expect cuts to Medicaid programs as well.